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Topwater Caranx Ignobilis: Giant Trevally (GT) => Tackle & Techniques => Topic started by: Brent Collo on April 28, 2014, 10:01:20 PM
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Hi guys,
I'm looking to spool my newly purchased Stella 14000XG with Varivas Casting PE8 braid, but would like to hear if anyone has some actual capacities with the same or similar line.
Originally, I was under the impression it had a similar capacity to an after market 16000spool, but now I'm not so sure.
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers, Brent.
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I got about 230 metres of Sasame PE8 on mine.
300 metres of PE6 Sunline Castaway Monster Battle.
Regards,
Trev
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Hand winding PE8 off an Avet 50 for tension I got a whopping 200 yds on. Could get more with a proper winder but not a whole lot more. So I put the PE 8 back on the Avet and went with PE 6 instead (300 yds went on nicely). I'm told the 16000 spools hold 50 yds more but they seem to be sold out everywhere so can't vouch for that.
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Thanks for the feed back. So I guess that Shimano's line capacity guide on the spool is close, I can live with 230 meters, should be enough.
Cheers, Brent.
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Brent,
You have to bear in mind that with the odd wind knot etc that 230 metres gets reduced to 180 metres during a trip pretty quickly.
Regards,
Trev
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For the eventualities that Trev mentions, a good idea is to get an aftermarket spool - either a 16000 or 12000. The old SW12000 spool (Yumeya or Twinpower) seem to hold as much as the new 14000 - go figure.
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Brent,
You have to bear in mind that with the odd wind knot etc that 230 metres gets reduced to 180 metres during a trip pretty quickly.
Regards,
Trev
Good point Trev.
Looks like it'll be better to buy an after market spool, which was something I was considering.
Now due to the SOM 16000 being impossible to fine, would the Jigging Master be a reasonable alternative?
Thanks again for everyone's input.
Brent.
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Yer and the 250m on a Som spool gets reduced to 200m. What's the difference?!! How many times has that 20 metres of line saved the fight? Seriously jus use the standard spool, they have the best drag hands down!
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Fishing less than 200 metres of line feels like you are pushing your luck with GTs to me. Each to their own though.
The SOM 16000s do seem impossible to get now Brent. I would imagine this is because they are making a new range colour matched for 2013 Stella? They are superbly made things. The two biggest GTs I have ever caught (both well over 50kgs) were on a SOM 16000/Stella 10000 combo.
I have not used the JM 16000 but plenty of people do and I remember Brandon's review posted here which was very positive.
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Fishing less than 200 metres of line feels like you are pushing your luck with GTs to me. Each to their own though.
The SOM 16000s do seem impossible to get now Brent. I would imagine this is because they are making a new range colour matched for 2013 Stella? They are superbly made things. The two biggest GTs I have ever caught (both well over 50kgs) were on a SOM 16000/Stella 10000 combo.
I have not used the JM 16000 but plenty of people do and I remember Brandon's review posted here which was very positive.
Agreed Mark it's always nice to have a little more in reserve , just in case.
I did have an email from Richard Fong stating there was a delay in spool manufacture, but should be available in late May.
I might just hang until an update is received in regards to the availability.
Brent.
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Hi Brent,
I recently fished using the 14k reel and i was very happy with the reel in general, I spool it with 80lb Power Pro Hollow Ace pushing the 40lb drag on the reel with no failure to the line whatsoever, Hollow line is way better and cheaper on the long run,
you might want to consider the Hollow line option in the future and for sure you will get more line capacity, good luck.
Tight lines
Sami
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Hi Brent,
I recently fished using the 14k reel and i was very happy with the reel in general, I spool it with 80lb Power Pro Hollow Ace pushing the 40lb drag on the reel with no failure to the line whatsoever, Hollow line is way better and cheaper on the long run,
you might want to consider the Hollow line option in the future and for sure you will get more line capacity, good luck.
Tight lines
Sami
Thanks Sami, I'll take the Hollow Ace option under consideration. I guess I've stuck with certain lines as I have confidence in the knots I use with it.
I've used The original Power Pro braid for years and really rate it.
Cheers, Brent.
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Hi Sami,
Do you how much 80lb hollow ace were loaded in the 14k (original spool? )
Thanks alot :)
Hi Brent,
I recently fished using the 14k reel and i was very happy with the reel in general, I spool it with 80lb Power Pro Hollow Ace pushing the 40lb drag on the reel with no failure to the line whatsoever, Hollow line is way better and cheaper on the long run,
you might want to consider the Hollow line option in the future and for sure you will get more line capacity, good luck.
Tight lines
Sami
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Loaded my Stella SW 14000 with Jerry Brown non hollow 80lbs line
Can only load to around 270 yards
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Hi Sami,
Do you how much 80lb hollow ace were loaded in the 14k (original spool? )
Thanks alot :)
Hi Joel,
I manage to get around 290 yards.
Tight lines
Sami
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Buyer beware. Nothing but failures on the SOM spools I've seen in the flesh, and I've seen a lot!
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Buyer beware. Nothing but failures on the SOM spools I've seen in the flesh, and I've seen a lot!
Wah that's bad...I'm aiming for a spare spool, what do you think of Yumeya spools?
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There's been enough captures out there to know they work, well most of them. However, I personally would not buy one! Busted, rusted and failure is what I have seen and that's enough for me not to use that product.
Yumeya is a specialist aftermarket arm of Shimano and the quality is generally very good. Never had an issue with a Yumeya product however, I do find the protective coating on the new stock spools to be disappointing. I hope they rectify this.
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You do hear some mixed reports on the SOM No Limits.
I guess personal experience guides most of us. I have had 3 x SOM No Limits 16000 and a 20000 for some years now and never had an issue (apart from once when water got into the drag stack - the drag system does not like water!). But as Luke says I do know of others who have had some issues.
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I've seen many failures to the SOM as well, especially under heavy drag, i found no reason to replace an original Shimano spool to gain line capacity and loose smoothness over it, not to forget that the original Shimano spool design is the ultimate for casting.
Tight lines
Sami
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Hi Sami,
Were you targeting GTs on the 14k with hollow 80lbs ? Tks
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Hi Sami,
Were you targeting GTs on the 14k with hollow 80lbs ? Tks
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Wow those were excellent fish
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In the hands of a master
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When I think that there has been much criticism concerning the new Shimano, I realize that these criticisms were not based :( Is not Sami ;)