problems with loose ferrules

[Dave Hoo]

Hi all,
I have a butt joint rod where the ferrule is loose.

Needed some advice on how to remediate the situation.

thanks

[Jon Li]

Hi all,
I have a butt joint rod where the ferrule is loose.

Needed some advice on how to remediate the situation.

thanks

Go to a rod builder and get the ferrule relaminated to the required thickness .

Jon .

[Mike_Tan]

Hi all,
I have a butt joint rod where the ferrule is loose.

Needed some advice on how to remediate the situation.

thanks

How loose is it dude? If it's not too bad I can snap a shot of the ferrule wax I'm using and send it to you via mms this evening. Got it from Coho and it's a popular product with fly anglers. The "lipstick" type sucks and I really don't care much for them.

[Mike_Tan]

http://www.loonoutdoors.com/dealers/graffitolin.html

[Mark Harris]

Alternatively save money and use a candle .

I am also not sure that wax really helps a loose ferrule get any tighter.

[Brandon Khoo]

It does a bit in that it does significantly reduce the amount it moves around or slips out. It does depend on how loose the joint has become.

Alternatively save money and use a candle .

I am also not sure that wax really helps a loose ferrule get any tighter.

[Sachin Chaudhry]

I use the Smith ferule wax. Very good for this problem.

[Dave Hoo]

thanks for all the suggestions.

the intial 3-4cm of the ferrule is loose and only the last 4cm of the ferrule fits when I assemble the rod.

just wanted to be sure that this is ok as I do not want breakages at the ferrules (i had a couple for my jigging rods).

Will try coho when I am in SG for the wax.

Where can I get the Smith ferrule wax?
thanks

[Stephen Callus]

Hi Dave you can get the Smith ferule wax from JDM tackle

[Patrick Cooper]

Fishhead have it http://www.fishhead.com.au/store/products/Smith-Rod-Ferrule-Wax.html

[Wan Izhan]

A friend of mine had these problems with his newly accquired Carpenter MonsterHunter. 
His male joint flying out during heavy casting in Maldives. He said his new MH has loose ferrule (joint) which got space inside the joint section resulting in no grip.
Only the top section is tight. He said the female part also cracked during the incident.

I wonder if this situation has ever happened to Carpenter users?
Do we need to modify the female section i.e. modified to metal ring to prevent break?
Is the epoxy binding for the rod but is not strong enough to prevent the blanks cracks?

[Jon Li]

Never seen it in a new rod but a couple of my old favourites have the male ferrules relaminated with a layer of epoxy to get good grip due to extensive uses over the year . The cracked female ferrule is due to loose connection , repairing by winding thread used for guide winding will make the handle usable again but those images in the post , I have never seen a Carpenter rod with aluminium sleeve on ferrule joint , is this a custom work by other rod builder ?

All new Carpenter rods that I have seen , when inserted into the handle , tend to have circa 20mm of the male ferrule outside the handle . Is there any chance your friend has sanded the ferrule in order to get the rod inserted fully into the handle but in the process , making the male ferrule to become loose inside ?

Jon .

[Bwanna Surya]

Aluminium sleeve on ferrule joint of a Carpenter...interesting

I'd like to see one...

Hi Izhan, any chance posting more pictures of the rod?

Cheers,
Bwanna

[Wan Izhan]

Never seen it in a new rod but a couple of my old favourites have the male ferrules relaminated with a layer of epoxy to get good grip due to extensive uses over the year . The cracked female ferrule is due to loose connection , repairing by winding thread used for guide winding will make the handle usable again but those images in the post , I have never seen a Carpenter rod with aluminium sleeve on ferrule joint , is this a custom work by other rod builder ?

All new Carpenter rods that I have seen , when inserted into the handle , tend to have circa 20mm of the male ferrule outside the handle . Is there any chance your friend has sanded the ferrule in order to get the rod inserted fully into the handle but in the process , making the male ferrule to become loose inside ?

Jon .

yup2 Pak Jon, the aluminum sleeves was the solution of the cracked female joint, built by another rod builder. I dont think my friend sanded the ferrule since he is very experience GT angler, but i will ask him later.
Interested to know on how you relaminated the male joint using epoxy.

Bwanna, i will ask my friend to send me more pics.

many thanks, cheers
izhan

[Jon Li]

Hi Izwan ,

The alu sleeve situation is understood , please ask your friend if the loose joint was apparent when he bought the rod , it may just be a swapped handle . I once brought the wrong handle for the my intended rod  resulting I couldn't use my own rods in that particular trip and had to borrow my buddy's rod .

Jon .

Never seen it in a new rod but a couple of my old favourites have the male ferrules relaminated with a layer of epoxy to get good grip due to extensive uses over the year . The cracked female ferrule is due to loose connection , repairing by winding thread used for guide winding will make the handle usable again but those images in the post , I have never seen a Carpenter rod with aluminium sleeve on ferrule joint , is this a custom work by other rod builder ?

All new Carpenter rods that I have seen , when inserted into the handle , tend to have circa 20mm of the male ferrule outside the handle . Is there any chance your friend has sanded the ferrule in order to get the rod inserted fully into the handle but in the process , making the male ferrule to become loose inside ?

Jon .

yup2 Pak Jon, the aluminum sleeves was the solution of the cracked female joint, built by another rod builder. I dont think my friend sanded the ferrule since he is very experience GT angler, but i will ask him later.
Interested to know on how you relaminated the male joint using epoxy.

Bwanna, i will ask my friend to send me more pics.

many thanks, cheers
izhan