Treble Hook Design

[AustralianAngling]

I am in the process of make new treble hooks sample's been made now.
Photo of hook has been edited to show re curve of point to manufacturer.
Will also have small barb which can be crimped.

My question is what hook sizes are you using.6/0, 7/0, 8/0, 10/0 ?

[Brandon Khoo]

Steve, the difficulty is that every manufacturer has a different idea of what the hook size means!
I use Owner ST76 5/0s, Gamakatsu Recorder 8/0s and 7/0s and Decoy GT Special 10/0s myself.

[AustralianAngling]

Brandon

Yes sizes vary a bit I have size chart for current brands,I will get samples in a variety of sizes and then decide which ones I will make probably following Decoy sizing.
So can you please advise what brand you are also using when advising size.
Also no more Decoy hooks in GT Special in the larger sizes avaialable.

[Brandon Khoo]

I have been hoarding the GT Special 10/0s so should be fine for a while! 

[Greg Burt]

Why am I not surprised  

[Andy Rowe]

I am in the process of make new treble hooks sample's been made now.
Photo of hook has been edited to show re curve of point to manufacturer.
Will also have small barb which can be crimped.

My question is what hook sizes are you using.6/0, 7/0, 8/0, 10/0 ?

Evil looking hooks there Steve.

They look like they will do the business, nice shape.

Perhaps to simplify, a size range using Gamakatsu GT Recorders/ Decoy respective equivalents sizes:
 6/0 = 7/0, 7/0=?? and 8/0=10/0 would cover the GT application for the places I fish anyway.

Look forward to seeing the new product, about time something new came on the scene as far as trebles go>

[Chris Young]

I use 5/0,6/0,7/0,8/0 sizes based on Gamakatsu GT Recorder sizing.
Steve, any possibility of doing barbless?
Wish they made ST76 Barbless .

[Callan Wallace]

I would be very interested in carrying these in my shop. Right now I have Owner and Decoy in my shop as well as VMC and am always looking for new terminal tackle that will do the job.
Cheers

[Luke Wyrsta]

8/0 and 10/0 Decoy.

I would also like to see a 12/0 - based upon the Decoy sizing.

[Chris Young]

Luke,12/0 would be one big heavy hook, I think only a small no of lures on the market could carry that size . Would be good, though it would also need to be thicker gauge wire
I know bigger is better most times but it is also easy to put on too big a hook, eg hooks should never be able to "hang up" on lure body. This can happen with too big a gape or too long shaft. 

[Luke Wyrsta]

Luke,12/0 would be one big heavy hook, I think only a small no of lures on the market could carry that size . Would be good, though it would also need to be thicker gauge wire
I know bigger is better most times but it is also easy to put on too big a hook, eg hooks should never be able to "hang up" on lure body. This can happen with too big a gape or too long shaft. 

Hi Chris,

The GT market is a specialist market - niche, low volume product excels.

Sure it may only be applicable to a small group of select lures - but these happen to be most of the lures I use!

I have deformed x2 Decoy 10/0 trebles last trip (and countless on others) - although this is not uncommon due to leverage and vice-like effect of a GT's mouth - there is most certainly, in my opinion - scope for thicker gauge, bigger gape and in general a bigger hook profile.

I agree with you on your view about "hanging-up" on the lure or leader itself - but hopefully that does not become a design barrier.

[Luke Wyrsta]

A bigger gape may inherently mean easy to lever and deform but I'm simply putting it out there that it would be nice to consider a larger style treble hook.

[AustralianAngling]

Andy
They are a cross from a Hook I was given many years ago that was not released onto market and the tip return from a Decoy.

Chris
I thought about making just barbless but some prefer to have a bard on there hooks and when you have to make 3000pcs of a size better to get the barb and crimp down when prefered.

Callan
Not a problem should be available early in new year.

Luke
12/0 is possible also will ask manufacture for sample.

[Chris Young]

No arguments from me Luke. Larger hooks means I can make even Bigger lures to carry them
Maybe if they use ST76 guage to gape size as a guide for a larger hook. Imagine a 10/0 with really heavy guage, now we're talkin'

[Jay Burgess]

I use ST76 5/0 and Gamakatsu Recorder 7/0 and 8/0.

Interesting discussion here guys, I think it's great how GT fisherman are continuously trying to push the boundaries