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Jon Li

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No more wind knot !
August 24, 2010, 04:46:47 AM
Guys ,

Check this : fuji new k serie.mpg

Jon .  8)
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Re: No more wind knot !
August 24, 2010, 09:22:57 AM
Could've warned us about that muzak!

Interesting, glad there are some good reasons that a TKWSG 50J costs about $90US, probably what you need on a big popper rod!

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Re: No more wind knot !
August 24, 2010, 09:24:46 AM
Great stuff, if they come in the big sizes and will help eliminate broken strippers I'm in.

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Re: No more wind knot !
August 24, 2010, 09:34:09 AM
Hi guys,

            Nice of you to post that Jon. I recently built an 8-14lb 7' spin stick using the single foot K- series guides. I can say with absolute confidence that these guides (although terribly ugly) are the best single foot guides i have used, full stop. I run two different line weights over this rod 8lb and 15lb and can happily say i have not had one problem at all with line hangups.

In saying this it is definatley recommended that you use the corect tip guide to match or else you will still get tip wrap.

I have also looked at the double foot version, but am a bit scetical on how heavier rod you would be able to use these on. Am soon to build a new P.E 5 stick and am probably going to bite the bullet and put them on to see how they handle a heap of pressure.

Anyone who reads this is probly going to say "who are you? and where did you crawl out from" but after a few more people start using these guides i am absolutely sure that they will become extremely popular, especially amongst lighter line fishos.


Just my two cents.        Dave.

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Re: No more wind knot !
August 24, 2010, 07:48:57 PM
The demo is impressive and compelling. It would be good to find out if these K guides hold up with heavier PE lines.

As for the aesthetics, I agree with David that these are not exactly the most beautiful looking guides, but if the wind knot problem is solved, then I could live with that!

Brandon Khoo

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Re: No more wind knot !
August 24, 2010, 09:14:50 PM
I have the K-WSGs on one of my Carpenters now. I have found that wind knots are reduced to almost nothing. The only real negative is the lines really rattles through the guides and its very loud and quite unpleasant. I have only been using the rod for practice and I haven't tested it out on a trip yet. They certainly do not look as strong as the super ocean guides like the MNSG or ICMNSG but I expect they will be strong enough.
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Callan Wallace

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Re: No more wind knot !
August 25, 2010, 06:36:14 AM
Have a look at the new guides on the Ocean Tackle Int.  Tuna Sniper 76XXH. It is a PE12 rod and I have yet to try it but the guides are pretty slick.

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Re: No more wind knot !
August 25, 2010, 10:16:39 AM
I must have been 1 lucky angler to have experienced on a few occasions, wind knits on this K-guides!
It probably does help but not full proof.
I agree with Brandon totally about the noise part, it is really loud and it doesnt give the feeling or confidence that the line is going out smoothly and getting the optimum distance.

Personal view only.

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Jon Li

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Re: No more wind knot !
August 25, 2010, 01:06:23 PM
Noise = Resistance ?  :-[

Jon .
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David Rapley

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Re: No more wind knot !
August 25, 2010, 04:50:25 PM
id have to agree that they are noisy, but from what ive experienced you dont loose any casting distance, if you do it seems to be minimal. On a personal level, i reckon i could handle sacrificing a couple of metres distance for no hang ups.

If anyone has tested the double footers under a decent amount of pressure id love to hear how they went?

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Re: No more wind knot !
August 25, 2010, 05:29:31 PM
Does anyone has any insights as to where the noise?
When i started trying it, I thought it was a case of misplaced guide positioning, but after a couple of guide position changes, the sound made it obvious it was from the guide design... just cant understand why... hoping for info.

Brandon Khoo

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Re: No more wind knot !
August 25, 2010, 08:11:42 PM
Hi Gu - I have been trying to work this out and I suspect (don't know for sure) that the line is slapping against the blank for some reason near the tip of the rod. It's a bit strange ........
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Re: No more wind knot !
August 25, 2010, 08:19:34 PM
Just a guess but maybe the line is slapping against the blank after the first or second guide because of the guide angle., theoretically the line should follow the guide angle ???

The only way to truly avoid wind knots is to do Killer Goby cast's ;D
Last Edit: August 25, 2010, 08:21:43 PM by Chris Young

Brandon Khoo

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Re: No more wind knot !
August 25, 2010, 08:32:19 PM
you need the fish to be quite close though if you're going to start tossing Killer Gobys around
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Re: No more wind knot !
August 25, 2010, 09:15:17 PM
Brandon, if you want to find where the noise is coming from just rub some wax on the blank before casting, the line slap will show up on the wax ;)