Leader Setup's why so complex?

[Tosh Auer]

What size leader do you think you could go to before you start to retard the action of your poppers?  300lb?

[Jon Li]

What size leader do you think you could go to before you start to retard the action of your poppers?  300lb?

Casting distance wud be greatly reduced when using such a thick leader . For big chugger , such thick leader may not affect the action much .

Jon .

[Mark Harris]

Huge fun trying to knot it as well! 

[Brandon Khoo]

I can't get any knot outside of a nail knot to bite with really heavy mono.
Any other suggestions?

[Trevor Skinner]

Brandon

I personally use much lighter flurocarbon (200lb) with an improved clinch knot. However, I know Nick Bowles uses the same knot successfully with 300lb mono.


Regards,


Trevor

[Mark Harris]

Nail knot is the easiest once you get above 200lbs I think.

I have successfully formed 3 turn (only 3) uni knots in really heavy mono and fluoro though, often with the aid of pliers.  I remember managing this and winning a bet in  the process with Jinkai 300lbs.

For GT fishing though, is it really necessary to go above 200lbs single strand?  I use 170lbs as standard and sometimes venture up to 200, but no more.

[Christoffer Hansen]

Fg knot to heavy leader and then crimp to swivel. Never had it fail in well over a 100 trips!

[Mark Gwynne]

I do exactly what Aaron does with the Yucatan. Simple, strong and effective. I don't use that heavy leader you guys are talking about now so have not done this but what if you used a crimp instead of a knot?

[Brandon Khoo]

I use a crimp- based system now. The nail knot is so painful to tie.
Mark, it's just for a bite leader segment. If a really big fish inhales the lure, it can wear through 170lb quite easily.

[Mark Harris]

Thanks for the clarification Brandon.

Have you considered a kevlar sleeve over your normal shock leader, rather than a separate bite leader?  I played around quite a lot with ideas for bite resistance and quite liked the kevlar sleeve set up as it was neat and avoided an extra connection (be it knot or crimp).

I guess that the downside of a kevlar sleeve is that the fish might see it quite easily?

[Luke Wyrsta]

We had big fish bite clean through 300lb shock leader on several occasions in Socotra.

We ended up using 400lb in some instances with 600lb Kevlar sleeve.

[Mark Harris]

Wow Luke. Would you mind sharing how you set up the kevlar sleeve?  Just a simple sleeve with a knot to stop it moving?

[Lou arellano]

Do any of you use knot savers?

[Luke Wyrsta]

Wow Luke. Would you mind sharing how you set up the kevlar sleeve?  Just a simple sleeve with a knot to stop it moving?

Hi Mark,

Yes, just slide the Kevlar over the nylon and then do a overhand knot near the junction so both materials are in the one knot.

Luke

[Peter Olesen]

Brandon, on 270 lbs Sunline mono I have used a 6 turn clinch knot on a Profishco Grommet/ring with succes. Beautiful and strong knot, and the stress on the main part of the leader is eased at the bottom of the knot compared to a uni knot.