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carpenter rod explanation please (ICBM)??
September 03, 2013, 10:03:57 AM
Hey gents,
Can anyone explain to me what the letters mean that  follow the rod lengths and lift weights are in the EP range??

90/37-ICBM means ?

Also the EP 86/40R-P1

 And EP 810/42R-P1-ICBM

???

Cheers,
Ben.

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Re: carpenter rod explanation please (ICBM)??
September 03, 2013, 10:46:26 AM
I'm pretty sure ICBM stands for Inter Continental Ballistic Missile. This model will have a different size tip than a non ICBM for a longer cast.

Not sure on the R but along with the number in front i think its to do with the thickness of the wall and the reinforcement type of the blank.

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Re: carpenter rod explanation please (ICBM)??
September 03, 2013, 11:03:05 AM
The tip section is the same. It's a extended butt section. 4" longer. The specs are on their website

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Re: carpenter rod explanation please (ICBM)??
September 03, 2013, 11:55:45 AM
An all-encompassing key to Carpenter's baffling acronyms would be much appreciated! (by me at least).

Ben Thomson

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Re: carpenter rod explanation please (ICBM)??
September 04, 2013, 12:24:19 PM
I'm with you mark.

The tip section is the same. It's a extended butt section. 4" longer. The specs are on their website

Tried website... .... : /

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Re: carpenter rod explanation please (ICBM)??
September 05, 2013, 12:07:10 AM
ICBM really stands for Inter Continental Ballistic Missile. Carpenter uses this mark to show that this particular model is made specially for incredibly long casts. Carpenter started using this mark from 2007 when they made LR-90 ICBM. It was longer version of LR-89 and made new standards of the long cast. To emphasize this it was marked by the abbreviation "ICBM".

"R" stands for "regular taper".

PI stands for "Power 1".

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Re: carpenter rod explanation please (ICBM)??
September 05, 2013, 01:06:50 AM
Thanks Dimitri.

Next step would be to understand what "Power 1" actually means?

And any idea what MRF means?  As in Black Current 80MRF.

I thought F maybe = Finesse but there is nothing at all finesse about this rod!

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Re: carpenter rod explanation please (ICBM)??
September 05, 2013, 01:18:02 AM
Thanks Dimitri.

Next step would be to understand what "Power 1" actually means?

And any idea what MRF means?  As in Black Current 80MRF.

I thought F maybe = Finesse but there is nothing at all finesse about this rod!

BC80MRF = Black Current 8' Medium Regular taper Finesse .
BC69MHR-SHP = Black Current 6'9" Medium Heavy Regular taper - Super High Power .
And so on .

Now on P1 , I am still trying to decipher the power difference between P1 n P Max , the answer from Japan is less clear than I wish .

Jon .
It's not what you don't know that gets you into trouble , it's what you know for sure that ain't so . Mark Twain .

Dmitrii Novgorodtcev

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Re: carpenter rod explanation please (ICBM)??
September 05, 2013, 07:46:24 AM
Thanks Dimitri.
Next step would be to understand what "Power 1" actually means?
And any idea what MRF means?  As in Black Current 80MRF.
I thought F maybe = Finesse but there is nothing at all finesse about this rod!

BC80MRF = Black Current 8' Medium Regular taper Finesse .
BC69MHR-SHP = Black Current 6'9" Medium Heavy Regular taper - Super High Power .
And so on .
Now on P1 , I am still trying to decipher the power difference between P1 n P Max , the answer from Japan is less clear than I wish .
Jon .

Hi all,

In accordance with the abbreviation rules of Carpenter BC80MRF must mean:
"M" goes for Medium power level
"RF" goes for Regular Fast taper.

"Finesse" is a characteristic of guide setting. This characteristic goes in the end of the model name in small letters in the  brackets. So, "F" does not mean "finesse" here, because it is capital, not small and not in the brackets. To be "finesse" it must be MR(f).

SHP abbreviation shows that the carbon layer is thicker than usual and the breaking point of such blank is very high withing the class of the blank.
Last Edit: September 05, 2013, 07:59:53 AM by Dmitrii Novgorodtcev

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Re: carpenter rod explanation please (ICBM)??
September 05, 2013, 10:38:37 AM
What about the meaning of Super Cobra on the new Blue Chasers?

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Re: carpenter rod explanation please (ICBM)??
September 05, 2013, 10:54:36 AM
Thanks Dmitrii.

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Re: carpenter rod explanation please (ICBM)??
September 05, 2013, 11:13:44 AM
Very helpful and some of the mystery is being removed.

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Re: carpenter rod explanation please (ICBM)??
September 05, 2013, 01:32:16 PM
What about the meaning of Super Cobra on the new Blue Chasers?

I recall reading somewhere that the BLC84/25 'super cobra' designation refers to being able to throw very light lures relative to its line and drag rating. Not sure about the other members of this designation.
Set the ray to GeeT

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Re: carpenter rod explanation please (ICBM)??
September 05, 2013, 02:13:12 PM
Andy,

I have the BLC 83/35 and although I can't confirm what Carpenter intended with the "Super Cobra' label your description pretty much fits that rod.



Trevor   

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Re: carpenter rod explanation please (ICBM)??
September 05, 2013, 03:43:22 PM
On the carpenter website it says on the BLC 80/35 write up that SC stands for " like a  SUPER COBRA being very aggressive and strong in attack"