Making up two piece rods

[Andrew Hurley]

Hi
Looked at a couple of new rods. When you slot the top section into the butt section the top section does not slot or the way into the butt section. This occurred with both rods. Didn't want to muscle up on it.

So the questions are;
1. Is this standard convention?
2. Any tips to make it up entirely so the join is flush.

[Ryan Keith]

Andrew, as far as I'm aware, this is very normal. You shouldn't try to force both halves together, as they could become stuck or damaged, potentially leading to catastrophic failure. If there's more than a couple of centimeters of 'naked' rod blank sticking out of the join, there might be something wrong with the fit. Otherwise, I don't think there's anything to be worried about. I'm sure some of our most experienced members will weigh in on this topic, but I'm pretty confident not all two-piece rods were meant to sit flush all the time.

[Andrew Hurley]

Cheers Ryan. First time to blow a k on a rod. Now i'll bludgeon or be bludgeoned with confidence  .

Thanks again

[Ryan Keith]

Haha I know the feeling. If it's a Carpenter, they're especially likely to have a little extra at the join.

[Dan Colebrook]

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&ei=RdSAUJYIyY2IB_7sgOgG&hl=en&nv=1&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dcarpenter.ne.jp%2Bindex%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26sa%3DG%26tbo%3Dd&rurl=translate.google.co.nz&sl=ja&u=http://www.carpenter.ne.jp/co.seihinsyoukai.rod.toriatukai.htm&usg=ALkJrhjYTNRqjBzw_BFlNiVHRiaAEzWTMQ


From the carpenter website

[Ryan Keith]

From the carpenter website

Dan, thanks for sharing... though I must say your link is a great reminder that as good as Google is, its autotranslate function still has a lot to be desired! I could barely understand that, especially the parts about soy sauce! What did you make of it?

[Trevor Skinner]

All quality 2 piece butt joined rods have that gap.

As long as the top fits snuggly into the handle without any play it's doing its job. Do not force it, just use hand pressure without twisting and do not sand the female join so that it fits better (seen it done).

The automatic translation on google is always a giggle. There's usually a reference to fruit and vegetables in the translation as well.

Regards,


Trev 

[Dan Colebrook]

I agree with Trevor on the rod.
The translations often say "the berry of the rod" or "roots vegetables". I assumed in the way it's written, the berry was the bend of the rod and the root vegetables was the reef/seaweed bottom?

[Kajtek Kielich]

I spoke to a rod builder once on this issue and his explanation was simply that it allowed for a certain amount of wear and tear over time and still hold a firm grip. Makes sense, with repeated joining and taking apart the graphite tubes probably wear ever so slightly which over a long period of time means either you have a cm or two to play with and insert further or find a way to increase diameter or friction/grip. I had a UC 10ft blank which to all intents and purposes had a perfectly fitting travel butt section, but which would seperate and the blank would fly towards the sea every 20 or so casts unless I remembered to push back in. Part of the reason here was a tapered tube but its completely normal to have a cm there as the others have said.
Regards