Stella 10000 SW

[Mike Creighton]

I suppose you guys get tired of helping newbies out, but here goes. I am buying my first GT outfit and it will be an all rounder. I am not big, 5'5" and 75 kgs, so being realistic I am not going to be able to throw a heavy outfit all day. I am looking at the Stella SW 10000 and an upgrade with a twinpower 12000 spool. The reasons for this are the weight and using the reel to double as a surf reel on a Daiwa 13'6" Emblem Pro.
I guess I have three questions. 1. will the 10000 be tough enough. 2. will the 12000 spool be big enough 270m of PE 6. And 3. would you recommend  using the 10000 of the beach Fraser North Staddie etc.
cheers Mike

[Mark Harris]

Hi Mike and welcome. No doubt at all that the Stella SW 10000 will be tough enough.

I am not sure about putting a Twinpower 12000 spool on though. Apart from anything else you are downgrading the capabilities of the Stella. Don't get me wrong, the Twinpower spools and drag are excellent, but the Stellas are better.

Also, a Shimano 12000 spool will barely hold enough PE8, although it will be OK for PE6.  I am not sure you really want to be GT fishing with PE6, although I know nothing about the location you mention.

Instead I would recommend looking for a Studio Ocean Mark No Limits 16000 spool and keep the factory 10000 spool for PE6 fishing. The SOM No Limits spool seems to be the ultimate upgrade for a Stella 10000, and it will hold up to 260 metres of PE8.

I should also add that I do most of my GT Fishing with either a Dogfight, Stella 18000 or a Twin Power 10000 fitted with that SOM No Limits spool. So others will know way more about the Stella SW 1000 than I do.

I hope that helps a little bit.

[Mark Gwynne]

I'm guessing you will use the Stella spool for the GT side and the 12000 Twinpower spool for the beach part? If so I can't see the need for PE6 on the twinpower spool. PE 3, 4 or 5 at most should be plenty.
I just fitted 300 yards of 80lb Berkely Whiplash to my Stella 10000 as a reference.

I agree with the previous post on the twinpower spool though. Either just buy the twinpower reel itself or get the stella spool upgrade. There is also a 12000 Yumeya spool you could get.
Cheers, Mark.

[Chris Webster]

Mate if you need a 10000 SW i am selling one. Will do you a good price. PM me if you are interested.

Chris

[Mike Creighton]

Thanks very much for that. If I go the 10000 will definitely use a Stella spool. I mistakenly thought the twin power used the same drag system. I want to use the larger spool for Gts because of the extra line capacity for PE 8. First trip will hopefully be with Nomad. Do you know where I would  find a SOM 16000 spool?
cheers Mike

[Mark Harris]

Thanks very much for that. If I go the 10000 will definitely use a Stella spool. I mistakenly thought the twin power used the same drag system. I want to use the larger spool for Gts because of the extra line capacity for PE 8. First trip will hopefully be with Nomad. Do you know where I would  find a SOM 16000 spool?
cheers Mike

SOM No Limits Spools seem very hard to come by at the moment! Others will know better than me if there is an Australian outlet with stock.

Most of the obvious overseas tackle suppliers seem to be out as well, but JDM Tackle are listing it as in stock on their website, and I know that Xpedition Tackle in Singapore have some (although their website says sold out).

[Mark Gwynne]

Thanks very much for that. If I go the 10000 will definitely use a Stella spool. I mistakenly thought the twin power used the same drag system. I want to use the larger spool for Gts because of the extra line capacity for PE 8. First trip will hopefully be with Nomad. Do you know where I would  find a SOM 16000 spool?
cheers Mike

Actually I believe they do have the same Hyper disc drag. I don't think you would need that extra capacity though. I assume you would be tossing poppers form a boat that is not anchored? Therefore you can chase them down.

[Peter Childs]

Hey guys, I thought the twinpower spool and stella spool were identical (apart from the cosmetic differnces of course) I've been running the two side by side with no perceptable difference.  Can anyone shed any more light on any differences?

[Mark Gwynne]

I thought they were the same apart from the cosmetics.

[Mark Harris]

Hmmm. I am not sure they are identical, rather just very similar.

Eg: I read that the max drag of a Stella SW 10000 is 23 kg versus 22 kg for the larger Twinpower SW 12000.

Hard to find this info from Shimano though as they tend to publish "Ideal drag" (whatever that means) rather than Max drags.

[Mark Gwynne]

The Australian catalogue (which doesn't sell the TP 12K) states they have the same Hyper disc drag. I would say the kilo less drag for the 12000 TP is due to the larger spool, similar to why the stella 10000 has 2 kilos of drag less than the stella 8000. The stella 8 and 10 K are the same apart from spool size so to me this is all it comes down to. I have noticed the twinpower 10000 also says 22 kilos of drag but they do say it's the same one.
Might be worth a phone call to Dunphy sports.....

[Mark Harris]

I guess it would be good to get the definitive answer on this. I have dropped an email to Shimano Singapore...... don't hold your breath for the answer  .

[Les Maunder]

I have a Stella SW 8000 and a Twinpower 10000 SW-A (all purchased in Australia) and the spools are interchangeable as are the drag knobs. They both have the Hyper Disk Drag (not twin) but the capacity of the twinpower spool is higher - I assume it is all to do with the centre arbour but I can't tell as both spools are filled with line.

JDM have a compatibility chart for the SOM No limits spools and state the the SOM NL 8000 and 16000 spools will fit both the Stella sw 8000, SW 10000 and Twinpower SW 8000 and 12000.


Cheers


Les