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Copies of Fisherman, Carpenter and HammerHead Poppers
Bwanna Surya:
I believe the recent case happened to the Patriot Design jig...in this case 2 of their design jigs are being copied in South East Asia....check out the link below, Matsutani himself posted the warning about the copy....
http://www.fishingouting.com/forums/f11/imitation-warninng-japan-pd-2832/
Simon Oakley:
I'm not for knock off either and I would say these aren't as good as the originals but I can say they aren't far behind.
You can see on some of them that they have internal weights ect (you can just see where they have been bodged up) just like the originals.
If you get the original take it all apart and use exactly the same components and have them weighted exactly the same how can it be greatly inferior from the original and at half the price I think there is going to be a lot of people that would buy the originals that will at least try these "knock offs".
I can tell you this much I will beat money at least 25% of the people who read this will at least go and check them out and being more readily available as well as less expensive (1/2 the price) then the originals I beat they sell a truck load of them (more then the originals) not to mention a lot of people that don't know what a Fisherman - Bigmouth or a Carpenter - Seafrog or even a Hammerhead - Tobi looks like that are just getting into Popping.
Look how hard it is to get any of those Name Brand Japanese Lures in Australia and no one carries any stock so they are going to sell a ton more then the originals.
The first thing I said to the guy in the tackle shop when I saw them was someone is going to get there arse kicked. It would probably be different if they had changed something on them or only had one or two out of the whole range that were copies but the whole lot were copies there is about 12 different Poppers and all are copies of proven Japanese originals.
They even had on the header tag something like this "These Lures Are Tried and Proven To Catch Fish" or something like that.
Its sad that whoever has a good idea and has spent the time developing the originals will have someone just copy them and profit from it.
I don't know if any of you read "The Australia Tackle Retailer" that most of the tackle shops get to show case new products. There was an article in their a couple of months ago where Ben from Halco Tackle was having a bitch about a company from China had copied there lures right down to the paintjob and patiented locking bib that won best new lure in the Chinese National tackle show and it was a Halco copy.
Well it looks like its not only the Chinese that copy good ideas but Australians as well.
I suppose you can look at anything in the tackle industry it always runs on copy's one season someone brings out something that a real revolution then a few months later 10 company's have all copied it.
Brandon Khoo:
actually Simon, I would wager that the poppers you saw are all made in China. For a lure to sell at $30-$40, it's wholesale cost would have to be something like $10-$15. They sure can't produce lures at that cost here.
Apart from the fact that it grates like hell for the small Japanese companies to see knock-offs, it doesn't impact them from a sales perspective as their lures disappear very quickly upon release and they are selling everything they make and leaving demand out there that isn't met.
You make a fair point on availability and I think you're right - at those prices, they will sell a lot of them.
Brock Arifovic:
We all know that there is nothing like the real thing!!!
Simon Oakley:
I will wager they were made in China or Taiwan or Thailand ect as well but were made for an Australian Company at there request.
I work in the tackle industry so I have a fare idea where things are made. I also know you cant beat Japanese quality.
Actually I have some Popping and Jigging blanks being made in Japan as we speak.
There is 4 models in the Popping range that go from PE5 to PE10
In the Jigging range I have 6 models from PE2 to PE10
The manufacturer of these blanks also builds blanks for company's like Fisherman, Carpenter, SevenSea's ect but to there design
The blanks will be made in Japan but the rods will be built here.
I am still tossing up if I will offer the blanks for sale I may just do that considering you cant really buy Japanese blanks (well except for one over rated brand).
The guy I am working with in Japan is the Guru of Jigging and Popping blank design.
I have Trade Marked a pretty shit hot name as well that they will be sold under.
Thanks
regards
Simon
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