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Leader length

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Brandon Khoo:
Ben, I don't know why it is called a Bruce Horner GT knot because it's an FG knot. I've used it quite a bit although I've largely gone to the PR knot for GTs now. I still use the FG for lighter line from time to time. Can I suggest to you that I wouldn't tie it this way. I don't feel there is anywhere near enough tension on the crossover turns. What you need to do after every couple of crossover turns is pull it really tight to ensure it bites into the mono. I would also recommend that you tie the half-hitches much tighter than you see in the youtube segment.

I hope it doesn't slip through the guides like Stewart through the Storm backline otherwise you might as well stick with twisted leaders.

Brandon Khoo:
Owner do not produce a bobbin as far as I know. I've got a MC Works one which looks like a conventional bobbin and a Shout one which looks very flash indeed but essentially does the same job. You get a bit more control with a Shout bobbin but it is a crazy price.


--- Quote from: Andrew Poulos on October 02, 2008, 08:59:19 PM ---What do you guys use for the PR knot - the owner bobbin or one of the other simple looking ones?

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Andrew Poulos:
Oops...I meant the shout one...I have the normal one I bought from jigs direct but was wonder if the shout version is worth the extra $$$$$....the normal one works fine for me most times so wasnt sure if the other helps that much more.

David Sharples:
I have the Shout one. Its very bling. I'm sure it does a good job as well but its pretty flash!

Re the leader question I've been using one devised by David Carnales over on another forum and I really like it. Basically its a half twisted half single strand hybrid.

One length of 200-240lb maybe 12 ft long (will make a 9ft/3m leader), take wraps on your hand three feet or so from one end and start the twists at the other end. once its twisted allow it to form up like a normal twisty and lock it with a figure 8 knot on both strands. Tie a solid ring on the long tag end of the figure 8 knot.

This gives a twisted section for shock absorption and a single strand at the end for lower vis if fishing stickbaits. You can bimini/cats paw or spliced loop/cats paw the twisted section loop to the braid and it can be wound into the guides. Therefore a longer leader can be used. These are really quick to make. I made one on the boat in about four minutes.

Used these twice in Musandam now with no dramas except a small baracuda biting through the braid loop/leader join when I was connected to my biggest GT of the trip. I hate those things!!!!

Chris Young:
I like my leaders a bit shorter than most,1 rod length. I like all the knots off the spool, seems to reduce the tendency of wraping on the stripper guide. Usually use twisties of 100-130lb connected to a short bimini loop.
I have been playing with a new knot system that uses the same join to twisty but deletes the bimini altogether. It seems to hold well in testing but yet to try it on a fish. The same knot system can also be used on single strand, again not thoroughly tested but looks promising

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